Segment broadcast on "The Big Story with John Gibson" on the FOX News Network
on Monday, June 26, 2006.
LifeSharers on Big Story with John Gibson 20060626
Unofficial transcript:
DAVID ASMAN, HOST SUBSTITUTING FOR JOHN GIBSON: Well, there are 92,000
Americans waiting every day for an organ donor that could save their life. Now
1,700 people a day die because a donor could not be found in time. But there is
a club where members agree to donate their organs to other club members first.
Not everybody likes the idea and Jane Skinner has that story. Jane?
JANE SKINNER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Well, David, give and you shall receive. Or at
least be willing to give. It's the philosophy behind this members only group.
You agree to donate your organs when you die and your chances in turn of getting
one if you need one are greatly improved.
Dave Undis started LifeSharers, as it's called, about four years ago. Dave,
real quickly at the top, you say this is all about fairness, what do you mean?
DAVE UNDIS, FOUNDER, LIFESHARERS: Well, people who aren't willing to donate
their own organs when they die shouldn't be at the front of the waiting list
when it's time to decide who gets the next organ. You can bury your organs, you
can cremate them, or you can save your neighbors' lives. If you are not willing
to save your neighbors' lives, then you should go to the back of the line.
SKINNER: Before we go to what the critics have to say about that, tell me who
can join. Some people paint this as an exclusive members only type of club? Who
can join and how much does it cost?
UNDIS: LifeSharers is not a club, it's a social contract. I agree to give you
preferred access to my organs, you agree to do the same for me, and we both
invite everyone else to join. Anybody can join LifeSharers and anybody can join
for free. You can join at our Web site at lifesharers.org, or by calling our
toll-free number, 888-ORGAN88. There is no age limit. Parents can enroll their
minor children, and no one is disqualified due to any pre-existing medical
condition.
SKINNER: And you know quite well what the critics say about this. A lot of
doctors say this is not right. The sound of a club they don't like anyway, but
the fact that need should determine, they say, the sickest person should be the
one who gets the organ first. Need should determine that, not whether you have a
club membership card or not.
UNDIS: Well, organs are not given to the sickest people first. That's a myth.
Sickness and the extent of your illness is only one of several factors that
determine who gets the next organ. What they don't take into account is whether
or not you are willing to donate your own organs when you die. And as long as
there is such a shortage, we should not be giving organs to people who are not
willing to donate their own when there are registered organ donors who need
those same organs.
SKINNER: The idea, though, it sounds like people are being allowed to jump
the line. If I'm willing to donate mine and why should I be getting one before
somebody who might be sicker, somebody who might actually be just about to die?
What if you didn't even know perhaps that that person was willing to donate
theirs, they just didn't tell you, they didn't know about your club, they hadn't
seen your web site or hadn't seen this report on FOX News?
UNDIS: Well, no one has a right to an organ transplant. Organ transplants
exist only because organ donors are willing to donate their organs. If you want
to start taking away from people the legal right to determine who gets their
organs, a whole lot fewer people are going to donate and a whole lot more people
are going to die.
SKINNER: We should point out, too, Dave, that a lot of people have commended
you, saying this has really increased awareness for the amount of organ donation
we need. Have you had successful matches, real quickly?
UNDIS: We have not yet had a member die and become an organ donor, so we
haven't had a transplant yet, but we know that's going to happen sooner or
later. LifeSharers uses directed donation, which is legal under federal law and
in all 50 states. So sooner or later, it's going to happen.
SKINNER: David Undis with LifeSharers. Dave, thanks very much.
UNDIS: Thank you.