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Segment broadcast on "The Big Story with John Gibson" on the FOX News Network on Monday, June 26, 2006.

LifeSharers on Big Story with John Gibson 20060626

Unofficial transcript:

DAVID ASMAN, HOST SUBSTITUTING FOR JOHN GIBSON: Well, there are 92,000 Americans waiting every day for an organ donor that could save their life. Now 1,700 people a day die because a donor could not be found in time. But there is a club where members agree to donate their organs to other club members first. Not everybody likes the idea and Jane Skinner has that story. Jane?

JANE SKINNER, FOX NEWS ANCHOR: Well, David, give and you shall receive. Or at least be willing to give. It's the philosophy behind this members only group. You agree to donate your organs when you die and your chances in turn of getting one if you need one are greatly improved.

Dave Undis started LifeSharers, as it's called, about four years ago. Dave, real quickly at the top, you say this is all about fairness, what do you mean?

DAVE UNDIS, FOUNDER, LIFESHARERS: Well, people who aren't willing to donate their own organs when they die shouldn't be at the front of the waiting list when it's time to decide who gets the next organ. You can bury your organs, you can cremate them, or you can save your neighbors' lives. If you are not willing to save your neighbors' lives, then you should go to the back of the line.

SKINNER: Before we go to what the critics have to say about that, tell me who can join. Some people paint this as an exclusive members only type of club? Who can join and how much does it cost?

UNDIS: LifeSharers is not a club, it's a social contract. I agree to give you preferred access to my organs, you agree to do the same for me, and we both invite everyone else to join. Anybody can join LifeSharers and anybody can join for free. You can join at our Web site at lifesharers.org, or by calling our toll-free number, 888-ORGAN88. There is no age limit. Parents can enroll their minor children, and no one is disqualified due to any pre-existing medical condition.

SKINNER: And you know quite well what the critics say about this. A lot of doctors say this is not right. The sound of a club they don't like anyway, but the fact that need should determine, they say, the sickest person should be the one who gets the organ first. Need should determine that, not whether you have a club membership card or not.

UNDIS: Well, organs are not given to the sickest people first. That's a myth. Sickness and the extent of your illness is only one of several factors that determine who gets the next organ. What they don't take into account is whether or not you are willing to donate your own organs when you die. And as long as there is such a shortage, we should not be giving organs to people who are not willing to donate their own when there are registered organ donors who need those same organs.

SKINNER: The idea, though, it sounds like people are being allowed to jump the line. If I'm willing to donate mine and why should I be getting one before somebody who might be sicker, somebody who might actually be just about to die? What if you didn't even know perhaps that that person was willing to donate theirs, they just didn't tell you, they didn't know about your club, they hadn't seen your web site or hadn't seen this report on FOX News?

UNDIS: Well, no one has a right to an organ transplant. Organ transplants exist only because organ donors are willing to donate their organs. If you want to start taking away from people the legal right to determine who gets their organs, a whole lot fewer people are going to donate and a whole lot more people are going to die.

SKINNER: We should point out, too, Dave, that a lot of people have commended you, saying this has really increased awareness for the amount of organ donation we need. Have you had successful matches, real quickly?

UNDIS: We have not yet had a member die and become an organ donor, so we haven't had a transplant yet, but we know that's going to happen sooner or later. LifeSharers uses directed donation, which is legal under federal law and in all 50 states. So sooner or later, it's going to happen.

SKINNER: David Undis with LifeSharers. Dave, thanks very much.

UNDIS: Thank you.


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